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Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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Shingles, Snowstorms ❄️ & Social Media Shutdown 🧨 :: Episode 156

April 12, 2021 - 59 min

The boys are back from hiatus, and John has a horrifying virus 🦠 (not THAT one). Then, Jonnie wonders if his workout streak has become a problem. Plus, a conversation about what the world would look like without Facebook and Twitter. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Sarcastic Chiropractors ™️: “Well, look whose back...” Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Flammable Friends, Anti-Heroes, and Redemption :: Episode 155

March 29, 2021 - 44 min

John’s blind dog makes a run for it, and Jonnie reminisces on childhood fire safety tips. Then, the boys discuss why “brokenness” makes for more interesting characters in TV and movies (and real life), and why Christians sometimes feel the need to hide their flaws. Plus, a conversation on cancel culture, forgiveness and growth. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Spoiled Milk : “It’s spreadable, and it’s edible!” Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Breakfa$t Burrito$, Drastic Measures ✂️, and Purity Culture 🙈 :: Episode 154

March 22, 2021 - 65 min

The boys discuss the Vols’ chances in March Madness, and whether John could hit clutch free throws. Then, Jonnie shares details about his health journey, weight loss, and support system. Also, a conversation about misogyny in evangelical churches, and why it’s so damaging. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Dave’s Magic & Valet Parking™️: “Is THIS your car??” Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Daylight Savings ☀️, Teenage Brains 🧠, and Authenticity ❤️ :: Episode 153

March 15, 2021 - 57 min

John and Jonnie know nothing about farming or hunting, and it shows. Then, the boys reminisce on incredibly dumb things they did behind the wheel 🚙 as teenagers, and Jonnie gets skeptical about the "Treasure of Oak Island” 💰. Plus, a conversation on what we surmise to be the appeal of our own show (for better or worse). Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Marital Arguments™️ : “I didn’t say I was angry. I said I was upset." 🤯 Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Flaming Vehicles 🚗 🔥, Public Singing 🎶, and Self-Worth :: Episode 152

March 8, 2021 - 54 min

Jonnie has car problems and he somehow makes it worse, while John tries to be a Good Samaritan until he hears gunshots. Then the boys discuss their checkered driving past, and Jonnie encounters a loud child on a plane. Plus, a conversation on the art of listening 👂 without always offering solutions or advice. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Gravel™️ 🪨: "Like pavement, but looser." Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Dog Warranties 🐶, False Alarms 🚨, & Submission Trains 🚂 :: Episode 151

March 1, 2021 - 47 min

John and Jonnie have their monthly COVID scare, and prepare to blame each other. Jonnie pays way too much for a pet’s surgeries, and the boys inadvertently create a Russian figure skater. Plus, a conversation on gender roles and chivalry. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Hyphens®️: “The fine line between a co-op and a coop.” Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Bison Burgers🦬, Frozen Fog 🌫, and Insecurity :: Episode 150

February 22, 2021 - 53 min

John writes way too many words, while Jonnie worries he isn’t animated enough onstage. Then, the boys survive the Snowpocalypse, but have a harrowing tale to tell. Also, a conversation about confidence, insecurity, and vulnerability. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Your Check Engine Light™️💡: “It’s probably nothing, but whatever it is sure sounds expensive.” Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Robot Censorship 🤖, Qanon, and Pillow Lawsuits 🛌 :: Episode 149

February 8, 2021 - 49 min

Jonnie defends himself from the fallout of last weeks hotdog 🌭 episode and builds a snow fort ❄️. Then the boys discuss Artificial Intelligence, and its effects on comedy and censorship. Plus, a conversation about opposition-based thinking, and the importance of holding our own tribes accountable. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by iPhone Screen Time Notifications ®️: “Of course you’re addicted to your phone 📱. Let us show you exactly how much." Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Firefighting🔥, Hotdogs🌭 , and Situational Ethics :: Episode 148

February 1, 2021 - 56 min

John and Jonnie break down some overused colloquialisms, and believe it will help you (when combined with diet and exercise). Jonnie contemplates petty crime when he is wronged by the local grocer, and John argues with his wife over sausage. Also a conversation on justice and grace. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Tennessee Football 🏈: “This season is in the bag💰." Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Fat Tax, Subway Sandwiches 🥪, and Executive Orders ⚖️ :: Episode 147

January 25, 2021 - 60 min

John receives a sick burn from a neighbor while out for a jog, and Jonnie dreams of being President, if only to enact arbitrary legislation. Then the boys discuss Old Testament stories, and whether they’d do 7 years of labor for their bride. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Hairetics 💇‍♂️®️: “Where bad theologians get a good cut.” Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

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Meet Your Hosts

John Driver is a husband, daddy, writer, and podcaster who has served his community as a minister for over two decades. He has authored, co-authored, or served as the primary collaborative writer for over twenty-eight award-winning books, including the satirical The Ultimate Guide for the Avid Indoorsman (Harvest House) and Not So Black and White: An Invitation to Honest Conversations About Race and Faith (Zondervan). A nerdy humorist at heart, John is a former History teacher who has been featured on Good Morning America and numerous other shows and podcasts. He earned a B.A. in History and an M.S. in Curriculum and Instruction from the University of Tennessee in Knoxville. John lives near Nashville with his wife and daughter. https://linktr.ee/johndriver

Meet Your Hosts

Jonnie W. is a nationally touring comedian for over a decade, performing at major events, clubs, and churches of all shapes and sizes. Having shared stages with comedians like Nate Bargatze, John Crist, Michael Jr., and Tim Hawkins, Jonnie approaches comedy from an absurdly silly and cerebral angle, combining off-beat standup & music into a unique comedy experience.

Jonnie's special, Live At The Franklin Theatre, was featured on Amazon Prime Video, and his two Drybar comedy specials are viral hits, garnering millions of views, and landing him in their Top Ten most viewed for 2021. He has also been featured on the Grand Ole Opry's Circle Network and is heard daily on Sirius Satellite Radio. Jonnie lives with his wife Curry near Nashville, TN, because that’s where all their stuff is. https://linktr.ee/jonniew