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Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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Safe Rooms, Statues, & Propaganda :: Episode 116

June 15, 2020 - 71 min

The boys ponder whether they’d use a tiny tornado shelter, and John gives a stellar bus driver metaphor worthy of a youth sermon. Then Jonnie responds to some listener questions, and gives some advice to young comedians. Also, a conversation on The Confederacy, “The Lost Cause”, and Cancel Culture. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Drive-In Theatres ™️🎥 🍿: “Welcome Back Outside, America." Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Racism, Reconciliation, and Reggie Dabbs :: Episode 115

June 8, 2020 - 71 min

Jonnie gets back to work telling jokes in front of people 🎤, while John tries his best to keep his daughter from getting a Facebook account. Then the boys welcome in their longtime friend - author and speaker Reggie Dabbs - to talk about his black experience in America, speaking out even when it’s uncomfortable, and how white folks can be allies for change in this important season. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Business Cards™️ : "Here, throw this away." Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Renditions, Youth Group, and Church Growth :: Episode 114

June 1, 2020 - 52 min

John realizes no one remembers any of his past messages, and Jonnie wonders if sermons need to rhyme to be good. Also, a conversation about how the show, and our opinions, have evolved over 114 podcasts, and how we expect to be cancelled any minute now. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Butterflies 🦋™️: “Moths with one nice outfit." Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Hostile Witnesses, The Last Dance 🏀, and Adult Language 🤬 :: Episode 113

May 25, 2020 - 50 min

Jonnie ponders if he would lose his creative drive if he were super rich, while John withers under cross-examination from a Southern lawyer. Then, the boys chat about their show being “Unrated”. Also, a conversation about Michael Jordan, bad journalism, and being present. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Breakfast 🍳: “The 7th most important meal of the day." Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Fist Bumps 👊, Stilts, and Dead Birds 🐦 💀:: Episode 112

May 18, 2020 - 53 min

Jonnie invents a new handshake 🤝 for a new era, while John listens for whispers, and tries to hard sell Jonnie on the merits of a national parks documentary 😴. Also, a conversation about hearing God’s voice. This episode is NOT sponsored by Cottage Cheese ™️: “Have we gone bad? Who knows?” Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Quarantine Fatigue, Words of Affirmation, and Sabbath Days :: Episode 111

May 11, 2020 - 65 min

John and Jonnie are back in studio TOGETHER (sort of)! The boys talk about great Moms, Jonnie wonders if a baked potato🥔 is a meal, and John questions his own conspiracy theory acumen 🤓. Then, a discussion on white privilege (from two white guys). Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Coughing In Public™️: “Hold it in if you possibly can." Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Pandemic Pandering, Naked Running, and Fiery Furnaces 🔥 :: Episode 110

May 4, 2020 - 46 min

Jonnie hates “Corona Commercials” and does a dramatic reading of what they actually sound like, while John rides the salty-sweet food roller coaster. Jonnie asks John if it’s tougher to preach on the book of Job in the middle of a national emergency. The boys marvel at a friend’s athletic accomplishment, and wonder if the first marathon was R-Rated. Also a conversation on why the Prosperity Gospel doesn’t ring true. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Broth™️: “Call it what it is... Meat Tea." Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Obstacles, Dog Attacks 🐶, & Running Behind :: Episode 109

April 27, 2020 - 51 min

John wards off a vicious beast using a surprising method, while Jonnie ponders the legality of a certain bumper sticker. Then the boys discuss the spectrum of attitudes about emerging (too early? too late?) from quarantine, and how we should all treat each other. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Pants™️👖: “Ready for our comeback.” Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Quarantine Brain, Tribalism, and Lazy Susans :: Episode 108

April 20, 2020 - 54 min

Jonnie assesses his market value for prerecorded messages to fans in Cameo, while John has Taco Bell for the first time in ages. Then the boys discuss whether the isolation is making dumb ideas trend on social media. Also a conversation about what occurs when our values clash with the party line of our tribe, and why people are more than one thing. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Hammocks™️: “Are you relaxed, or trapped?” Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Home Haircuts 💈, Tiger King🐅, and American Individualism 🇺🇸 :: Episode 107

April 13, 2020 - 56 min

John’s wife has the wrong idea of what it means to be “low on toilet paper”, while Jonnie discovers the surprising things stores ARE running low on now. Also, a conversation about worry, control, and togetherness in a culture raised to think of ourselves first. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Drapes™️: “We’ve updated our privacy policy.” Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

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Meet Your Hosts

John Driver is a husband, daddy, writer, and podcaster who has served his community as a minister for over two decades. He has authored, co-authored, or served as the primary collaborative writer for over twenty-eight award-winning books, including the satirical The Ultimate Guide for the Avid Indoorsman (Harvest House) and Not So Black and White: An Invitation to Honest Conversations About Race and Faith (Zondervan). A nerdy humorist at heart, John is a former History teacher who has been featured on Good Morning America and numerous other shows and podcasts. He earned a B.A. in History and an M.S. in Curriculum and Instruction from the University of Tennessee in Knoxville. John lives near Nashville with his wife and daughter. https://linktr.ee/johndriver

Meet Your Hosts

Jonnie W. is a nationally touring comedian for over a decade, performing at major events, clubs, and churches of all shapes and sizes. Having shared stages with comedians like Nate Bargatze, John Crist, Michael Jr., and Tim Hawkins, Jonnie approaches comedy from an absurdly silly and cerebral angle, combining off-beat standup & music into a unique comedy experience.

Jonnie's special, Live At The Franklin Theatre, was featured on Amazon Prime Video, and his two Drybar comedy specials are viral hits, garnering millions of views, and landing him in their Top Ten most viewed for 2021. He has also been featured on the Grand Ole Opry's Circle Network and is heard daily on Sirius Satellite Radio. Jonnie lives with his wife Curry near Nashville, TN, because that’s where all their stuff is. https://linktr.ee/jonniew