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Talk About That
John Driver and Jonnie WTwo quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.
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Text Etiquette, Being “Cringe,” and The Gift of Angst
November 9, 2023 - 47 min
John has a meeting with his inner committee and kills bugs for fun at dinner parties. Meanwhile, Jonnie doesn’t like moving around onstage and tells us the unfortunate words uttered by the recipient of the first X-Ray. Plus, a conversation about angst, assertiveness, and whether some anxiety is actually a privilege. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Mold: “We’ve been going green for thousands of years.” Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
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Halloween Candy, Stolen Sleep, and Over-Editing
November 1, 2023 - 56 min
John meets an archaeologist and steals gasoline. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders Halloween candy bowl etiquette and gives the telltale signs of a bad hotel room. Plus, a conversation about creativity and how to know when it’s time to stop editing your work. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Blackout Drapes: “Let the neighbors know you’ve updated your privacy policy.” Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
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90s Fashion, Space Cats, and Failure
October 25, 2023 - 55 min
John reminisces about Hypercolor t-shirts in the 90s and keeps an inferior product because it’s too expensive to return it. Meanwhile, Jonnie wants to bring back neckerchiefs, gives a $20 tip to a comedian for a perfect joke about Dawson’s Creek, and tells the story about the time France launched a cat into space. Plus, a conversation about how to handle failure. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by The Monte Cristo: “When you want a ham and turkey sandwich, but also kinda want a funnel cake.” Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
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Hitchhikers, Bad Directions, and Jealousy
October 18, 2023 - 48 min
John picks up a hitchhiker and has a missed connection at a Michael Bolton concert. Meanwhile, Jonnie doesn’t like his resting face and can’t find the southeast entrance of any building. Plus, a conversation about taking constructive criticism and being able to appreciate another artist’s work without feeling threatened. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by People Who Bring Bluetooth Speakers on a Hike: “Hey look, we ruined nature for everyone!” Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
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Fry Daddies, Wedding Problems, and The Eucharist
October 12, 2023 - 54 min
John ponders writing a cookbook and tells us what NOT to do if you are officiating a wedding. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells a risky joke at a megachurch and has a microphone literally taped to his face. Plus, a conversation about Holy Communion and why it’s important to our faith. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Honey®️: “Delicious and nutritious. Also, bee vomit.“ Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
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Overthinking, Mullets, and Honor Culture
October 4, 2023 - 53 min
John shouts at the clouds about the return of a certain hairstyle and tries to come up with photoshoot poses that aren’t awkward. Meanwhile, Jonnie accidentally steals someone else’s luggage on a road trip and tells the story of the world’s foremost school for department store Santas. Plus, a conversation about honor culture and the fine line between healthy and toxic when it comes to memorializing flawed people. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by The Snooze Button: “It’s the best sleep you will ever have, right before you lose your job.” Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
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Flesh Walls, Tongue Twisters and Road Rage
September 28, 2023 - 38 min
John stays way too long at the butter pump and yearns for a simpler time when our superheroes could be a bit pudgier. Meanwhile, Jonnie shares some of his pet peeves while traveling and tells the epic story of the man who played a chess match to save his own life. Plus, a conversation about how getting older can make us more contemplative when it comes to things like traffic. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Little Caesar’s Pizza: “What do you expect? It’s five bucks.” Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
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Marilyn Hanson, Side Quests, and Jumping the Shark
September 20, 2023 - 38 min
John creates a death metal boy band and ponders what would be on our podcasts official Bingo Card. Meanwhile, Jonnie has difficulty rolling his Rs and takes a moment to honor the 80s TV star who went skiing and gave us all a brand new catch phrase. Plus, a conversation about being centered and why doing the right thing is important, even if the results aren’t always perfect. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Trampoline Parks: “The most fun you will ever have spraining your ankle.” Todays episode is NOT sponsored by Squirrels : “We’re just rats with fluffy tails and better PR.” Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
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Roller Coasters, TV Auditions, and Control
September 13, 2023 - 52 min
John is self conscious of his squeaky shoes, and writes a song about dying frogs. Meanwhile, Jonnie auditions for the celebrity judges on America’s Got Talent and gets nauseous at Dollywood. Plus, a conversation about our need for control and the importance of trusting God in uncertain times. Todays episode is NOT sponsored by Squirrels: “We’re just rats with fluffy tails and better PR.” Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
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Lizard People, Legless Pilots, and Isolation
September 6, 2023 - 56 min
John tries living in the moment and thinks Jonnie is exactly 10% too negative. Meanwhile, Jonnie shares a hypothesis about why conspiracy theories exploded the past few years and tells the tale of the WWII pilot who had no legs, and used it as an advantage. Plus, a conversation about the dangers of isolation and why we need each other now more than ever. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by September in the South: “Let’s all have a Pumpkin Spice Latte and pretend it’s not 1,000 degrees outside!” Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Meet Your Hosts
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Meet Your Hosts
John Driver is a husband, daddy, writer, and podcaster who has served his community as a minister for over two decades. He has authored, co-authored, or served as the primary collaborative writer for over twenty-eight award-winning books, including the satirical The Ultimate Guide for the Avid Indoorsman (Harvest House) and Not So Black and White: An Invitation to Honest Conversations About Race and Faith (Zondervan). A nerdy humorist at heart, John is a former History teacher who has been featured on Good Morning America and numerous other shows and podcasts. He earned a B.A. in History and an M.S. in Curriculum and Instruction from the University of Tennessee in Knoxville. John lives near Nashville with his wife and daughter. https://linktr.ee/johndriver
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Meet Your Hosts
Jonnie W. is a nationally touring comedian for over a decade, performing at major events, clubs, and churches of all shapes and sizes. Having shared stages with comedians like Nate Bargatze, John Crist, Michael Jr., and Tim Hawkins, Jonnie approaches comedy from an absurdly silly and cerebral angle, combining off-beat standup & music into a unique comedy experience.
Jonnie's special, Live At The Franklin Theatre, was featured on Amazon Prime Video, and his two Drybar comedy specials are viral hits, garnering millions of views, and landing him in their Top Ten most viewed for 2021. He has also been featured on the Grand Ole Opry's Circle Network and is heard daily on Sirius Satellite Radio. Jonnie lives with his wife Curry near Nashville, TN, because that’s where all their stuff is. https://linktr.ee/jonniew
Jonnie's special, Live At The Franklin Theatre, was featured on Amazon Prime Video, and his two Drybar comedy specials are viral hits, garnering millions of views, and landing him in their Top Ten most viewed for 2021. He has also been featured on the Grand Ole Opry's Circle Network and is heard daily on Sirius Satellite Radio. Jonnie lives with his wife Curry near Nashville, TN, because that’s where all their stuff is. https://linktr.ee/jonniew