Talk About That
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Talk About That

John Driver and Jonnie W

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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Stolen Trailers, Space Vomit, and Civility
April 18, 2023 - 64 min
Today on Talk About That, John deals with a shady music producer and fights for his right to haggle over the price of a car. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets robbed and tells the story of the time America launched a vomiting Senator into space. Plus, a conversation on the decline of civility in politics and the dangers of tribalism.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Etch-a-Sketch: “The absolute best tool on the market for drawing stairs."   Get this episode AD-FREE: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat  FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Bindles, “Chreasters,” and Church Naps
April 10, 2023 - 56 min
Today on Talk About That, John shares what it’s like as a Pastor to prepare for an Easter crowd and talks about the biblical danger of sleeping in windows during a sermon.  Meanwhile, Jonnie orders extra crunchies at Long John Silvers, and the boys discuss what possessions they’d need if they were leaving for a long, long journey. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Nostalgia in Advertising: “Hey, weren’t things better when you were much younger? Of course they were. Now... buy our product."   FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg   Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Earworms, Garbage Boats, and the Problem with Perfection
March 28, 2023 - 51 min
Today on Talk About That, John gets a country song stuck in his head and is terrified of losing his job to a robot. Meanwhile, Jonnie accidentally disses Disney and tells the true story of the Old West outlaw who was made into shoes.  Plus, a conversation about our fruitless search for perfection and our need for authenticity.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Waffle House 🧇 ®️: “You’re probably here because it’s late.” FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Moon Landings, Tank Girl, and Algorithms
March 20, 2023 - 57 min
Today on Talk About That, John avoids scary movies, and invests in some good knee braces.  Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the most laid back of the martial arts, and tells the true story of the time a woman brought her OWN tank to fight in a war.  Plus, a conversation about negative engagement online, and whether the algorithm is creating or merely reflecting our current culture. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Filming Concerts with Your Phone®️: “When you want a low quality video with distorted audio, and also want to annoy those around you, try Filming Concerts with Your Phone!” FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Celebrity Culture, Wardrobe Malfunctions, and Authenticity
March 15, 2023 - 49 min
Today on Talk About That, John stalks Christian celebrities to give them our band’s demo CD and ponders if a ghostwriter ✍️ ever gets so busy that they hire their own ghostwriter. Meanwhile, Jonnie loses his shirt 👕 in Kansas and tells the tale of the time the US Army killed 6,000 sheep. Plus, a conversation about celebrity worship—and what it says about us. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Non-Essential Oils🧪®️: “Less helpful, but also not a pyramid scheme.” FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com    WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg   Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Tee-Totalers, Cable Cutters , and 20/20 Hindsight
March 8, 2023 - 67 min
Today on Talk About That, John deconstructs cable television, and wonders who mailed his mother a SpongeBob tumbler. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets indignant at the dentist, and tells John the story of the time NASA launched pictures of naked people into space 🚀 . Plus, a conversation about learning from history, and finding a balance between being honest about our shared past while maintaining a grace mindset.Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by The Cloud ®️☁️  : “All your photos are up here, and you don’t even remotely understand how.”FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.comFOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.comListen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Be-boppers, Fire Alarms, and Wrestling with God
February 28, 2023 - 68 min
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie deals with a fire alarm during his comedy set, and gives a sound scolding to a would-be burglar. Meanwhile, John gets sucked in by the magic of Disney 🐭, and will never recover financially.Then, our dear friend Carlo Serrano joins us in studio and tells the story of how he went from GED to PhD, and why being a learner is the best way to be a leader. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Beets®️: “They taste weird, but at least they also stain everything they touch.”Check out https://manna.edu/ to learn more about Manna University where today’s guest, Dr. Carlo Serrano, is the President. FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.comFOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.comListen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Tornado Alley, Hose Pipes, and Prayer
February 21, 2023 - 60 min
Today on Talk About That, John gets mistaken for a convict, and plagiarizes the Serenity Prayer. Meanwhile, Jonnie eats a gigantic potato 🥔, and loves tattoo culture, but doesn’t want a tattoo. Plus, a conversation about the dangers of “assembly line” spirituality ⚙️, and how to trust God even when we don’t get the outcome we hoped for. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Your 40’s™️ : “Congratulations, your knees hurt now.” 🩼 FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
LIVE MUSICAL GUEST:  Caleb Christopher Edwards on Bitter Foods, Unsafe Systems, and Muskrats
February 14, 2023 - 65 min
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie has way too many pairs of glasses, and a car just for his dogs. Meanwhile, John ponders if there is a right way to leave a text thread.  Then, singer/songwriter Caleb Christopher Edwards joins us for a candid interview about his creative and spiritual journey since being diagnosed with autism.  Plus, a conversation about the dangers of certainty and the thrill of hunting muskrats.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Mattress Stores™️: “Our favorite location is right across the street from another mattress store.” Make sure to check out the Kickstarter campaign for Caleb’s brand new project, “Metanoia”, and help him get across the finish line!: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/calebcedwards/metanoia-0?ref=discovery&term=caleb%20Christopher%20edwards  FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Engineers ⚙️, Tinnitus 👂, and Rejection 😞
February 6, 2023 - 56 min
Today on Talk About That, John hears ringing and doesn’t understand praying mantises. Meanwhile, Jonnie performs during a snowstorm ❄️ and ponders launching his own awards ceremony. Plus, a conversation about handling rejection and dealing with elements of your life over which you have no control.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Chewing Gum ™️: “We’ll see you again in seven years.”   FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
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Meet Your Hosts
Meet Your Hosts
John Driver is a husband, daddy, writer, and podcaster who has served his community as a minister for over two decades. He has authored, co-authored, or served as the primary collaborative writer for over twenty-eight award-winning books, including the satirical The Ultimate Guide for the Avid Indoorsman (Harvest House) and Not So Black and White: An Invitation to Honest Conversations About Race and Faith (Zondervan). A nerdy humorist at heart, John is a former History teacher who has been featured on Good Morning America and numerous other shows and podcasts. He earned a B.A. in History and an M.S. in Curriculum and Instruction from the University of Tennessee in Knoxville. John lives near Nashville with his wife and daughter. https://linktr.ee/johndriver
Meet Your Hosts
Jonnie W. is a nationally touring comedian for over a decade, performing at major events, clubs, and churches of all shapes and sizes. Having shared stages with comedians like Nate Bargatze, John Crist, Michael Jr., and Tim Hawkins, Jonnie approaches comedy from an absurdly silly and cerebral angle, combining off-beat standup & music into a unique comedy experience.

Jonnie's special, Live At The Franklin Theatre, was featured on Amazon Prime Video, and his two Drybar comedy specials are viral hits, garnering millions of views, and landing him in their Top Ten most viewed for 2021. He has also been featured on the Grand Ole Opry's Circle Network and is heard daily on Sirius Satellite Radio. Jonnie lives with his wife Curry near Nashville, TN, because that’s where all their stuff is. https://linktr.ee/jonniew
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